Lore
The Mysterious Stranger
"Sir Roland swears Orion is the Gold Knight he never slew. Bodvar insists he is Thor in disguise. Gnash believes he is a magic rock monster. Lucien is moved to incoherent rage at the sight of him. I don't care who he is, I just want to take him apart and see how he works."–Scarlet
"Here, I am called Orion."
–Orion
As the story goes...
Watching from the doors of Valhalla, Bodvar, Cassidy and the other legends saw a blazing trail of smoke cut across the Asgardian sky. Behind the fiery comet, a Valkyrie raced in pursuit, as though trying to stop the fireball as it plunged into the fields of Folkvangr in a gout of dirt and flame. The legends then watched as Valkyries and emissaries of Odin gathered around the smoking crater.Weeks later, the sons of Ivaldi, the same dwarven smiths who had forged Odin's spear, quietly appeared in Asgard, they bore a suit of dazzling golden armor and presented it to the gods themselves. Soon after, the mighty Orion joined the feast halls of Valhalla.
Tentative and aloof at first, Orion soon warmed to the great hall and is now among it's greatest warriors and most popular champions. Orion does not speak of his past, and other legends can only speculate. But Valkyries stop by his chambers to ask if he wants to, "you know, hang out or whatever, no big deal." He is the only hero seen to leave Asgard from time to time.
Connections
- Artemis' rival; the enigma to the answer that is Artemis; Artemis came into being when his name was spoken; destroying him is her main goal; as he grows in popularity in Valhalla, she wonders if Asgard might be too "infected" to save
- Somehow, Mirage knows him, but by some other name (or names)
- Considered a "metaphysical rulebreaker," a "rogue soul" and a "cosmological cold-case" by Nix
- A common frustration for both Artemis and Nix
- The Sons of Ivaldi (including Ulgrim) forged his armor; Ulgrim always keeps a close eye on him, out of either pride or concern
- Brynn and Val makes fun of his "mysterious cool-guy act"
- One of few legends deemed worthy of direct address with Lord Vraxx
Context
Orion is based on the "futuristic warrior" archetype. Part of that is the fact that his armor (and perhaps his weapons) were created by Asgardian dwarves. Also, he arrived as a comet from space! The developers at Blue Mammoth Games seem to have gone out of their way to make Orion a complete mystery. There are a few interesting clues in other lore pages, however (I'm particularly intrigued by Mirage's surprising familiarity with Orion, as well as Artemis' belief that Asgard might be "too infected."). But on this page, I will focus on what we can know for certain, and that starts with Orion's namesake.
Of course, Orion is one of the most recognizable constellations in the night sky, and it is named after the Orion from Greek mythology. There seems to be many variant stories about Orion, especially regarding his relationship with Artemis. Here is a summary of the different versions:
It is interesting that there are drastic differences in these stories, especially in Artemis and Orion's relationship. Whether these stories give us any clues is debatable. Recall that Artemis came into being when Orion's name was spoken. However, Mirage didn't know him as Orion, and mysterious stranger himself said, "Here, I am called Orion." This just raises more questions. If we assume he wasn't Orion before, who was he? Was he a threat to the universe before he was "called" Orion? If not, how did be become "Orion"? How might he be "infecting" Asgard as he gains popularity? As much as I'd love to hear more from Blue Mammoth Games about these and other mysteries in the lore, I'm not holding my breath because I suspect these myriad mysteries are part of Orion's character. Along with "futuristic warrior," he might also have the "quiet, mysterious stranger" archetype.
There are, of course, a few fan theories out there about Orion's true identity. Some posit that he is Lance Starchampion, though I am quite doubtful of this. The most solid fan theory I've come across, however, is Diffensive's theory that Orion is a male Valkyrie from an alternative universe. He makes some very convincing points, and I'm inclined to believe his theory until I see evidence to suggest otherwise.
Why lance and spear? The spear could be to honor the host of Orion's new home, Odin, who was know to have used a spear. The choice of rocket lance is likely due to Orion's connections with space, since this weapon tends to feature more advanced technology.
As a side note, Orion's name in the alpha version of Brawlhalla was Völst. Not entirely sure if there's any meaning behind that name. Here are some meanings of the word "volst" I found from Google Translate:
Of course, Orion is one of the most recognizable constellations in the night sky, and it is named after the Orion from Greek mythology. There seems to be many variant stories about Orion, especially regarding his relationship with Artemis. Here is a summary of the different versions:
- Artemis and Orion respect each other as great hunters, but Orion boasts that he will kill every creature on earth. The earth, Gaia, of course doesn't like this and summons a giant scorpion to kill him. Artemis asks Zeus to put Orion in the sky, thus the Orion constellation.
- Artemis falls in love with Orion, but her brother, Apollo, disapproves. While Orion is swimming in the ocean, Apollo challenged Artemis on her archery skill. Apollo tells Artemis to aim for a small dark speck on the ocean's surface (Orion's head above water, far from shore), and of course Artemis hits the target. She is overcome with grief when Orion's body is washed ashore.
- Orion assaults Artemis, and she either kills him herself, or sends a giant scorpion.
It is interesting that there are drastic differences in these stories, especially in Artemis and Orion's relationship. Whether these stories give us any clues is debatable. Recall that Artemis came into being when Orion's name was spoken. However, Mirage didn't know him as Orion, and mysterious stranger himself said, "Here, I am called Orion." This just raises more questions. If we assume he wasn't Orion before, who was he? Was he a threat to the universe before he was "called" Orion? If not, how did be become "Orion"? How might he be "infecting" Asgard as he gains popularity? As much as I'd love to hear more from Blue Mammoth Games about these and other mysteries in the lore, I'm not holding my breath because I suspect these myriad mysteries are part of Orion's character. Along with "futuristic warrior," he might also have the "quiet, mysterious stranger" archetype.
There are, of course, a few fan theories out there about Orion's true identity. Some posit that he is Lance Starchampion, though I am quite doubtful of this. The most solid fan theory I've come across, however, is Diffensive's theory that Orion is a male Valkyrie from an alternative universe. He makes some very convincing points, and I'm inclined to believe his theory until I see evidence to suggest otherwise.
Why lance and spear? The spear could be to honor the host of Orion's new home, Odin, who was know to have used a spear. The choice of rocket lance is likely due to Orion's connections with space, since this weapon tends to feature more advanced technology.
As a side note, Orion's name in the alpha version of Brawlhalla was Völst. Not entirely sure if there's any meaning behind that name. Here are some meanings of the word "volst" I found from Google Translate:
- Icelandic = rolling
- Latin = beardless
- Latvian, Lituanian, Persian, Ukranian = wolff
- Slovak = vols
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ReplyDeleteI'm curious about how in mythology, Orion and Artemis were once lovers, and Orion met his doom by a giant scorpion.
ReplyDeleteMakes me wonder if the developers would create some scorpion styled character?
In one version of the story were they lovers. As mentioned on the page above, Artemis and Orion could either be lovers, enemies, or hunters with mutual respect. Sources vary, really. A scorpion character would be kind of cool, although it seems the Brawlhalla Artemis is trying to fulfill that role herself.
DeleteMy theory:
ReplyDeleteHe is the harbinger of Ragnarok but not because he is evil. It's because he is good and Artemis is the evil one. She will cause Ragnarok trying to destroy Orion. Due to the fact that she is the universes' antibody with Orion being seen as an infection. Considering he isn't originally from that universe.
Clues to this:
#1
"She didn't even stop to tell me her diabolical plan. One second we were waiting for the usual monologue and the next my entire fleet was just gone."
– Lance Starchampion (in-game quote)
Lance Starchampion calls Artemis' plan diabolical. He also hinted that she should've monologued like the usual bad guy.
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"Destroying Orion isn't the only thing I want to do. But yeah, that's the main thing."
– Artemis (in-game version)
“I don’t only want to destroy Orion. But yeah that’s the main thing.”
– Artemis (website version)
Her main objective is to destroy! Orion. Not stop him or even reform him at all but to literally wipe him from reality. That sounds like a villain to me.
Summary:
Artemis is Ragnarok or "The Answer" to Orion, the infection, a foreign entity in the system; who is possibly here to warn of The end times, but one who's existence is the sole reason for the pending Doom.
Orion, Mirage and Lord Vraxx
I have a side theory that Lord Vraxx is cool with Orion addressing him because they have met before and he respects Orion as an enemy. I also believe this is where Mirage knows Orion. Through her time travels she stole a ship from a one eyed 👽. It's my belief that Orion helped her in that adventure...hence how they all are connected to one another.
I'm in the process of trying to write some fan fiction and honestly the way all the characters connect and interact is going to be a big part of it. Thank you for being a huge inspiration and reference source. I will cite you when I put something out
Those are some good points!
DeleteAlso I've been just looking at some norse mythology looking for clue for Orion being royal blood. So I got to read about Baldr and Váli and I think that Orion is a composition of those two sons of Odin in Brawlhalla's universe.
Why?
Baldr's death was an announcement of Ragnarok - here Orion's arrival is an announcement. The was Baldr's burial ceremony is done does kind of looks in some way of Orion entering Asgard:
Odin whispering unsolvable riddle to Baldr's corpses ear. -> Orion being a riddle himself after arriving. It's like making who you will be in the future.
Burial ceremony consisted of burning the ship on wich the body was placed. The ship was then pushed into the sea by the giant. The strenght used was so great that there was earth shaking results. -> Orion arrives into Valhalla as a comet, wich means with great force!
Also Baldr was supossed to be not being able to get harmed by anything, well except ONE damn mistletoe and died due to being hit by his brother with magical arrow/spear made by Loki after tricker got to know about his weakness. What's the analogy here? Well he go his armor wich possibly makes him invincible in Asgard. But Artemis with her powers might be able to take it off of him.
In addition there was a statement made by Hel that Baldr will be reborn if everyone will weep for his death. In mythology one giant or possibly Loki disguised as giant didn't do it. In Brawlhalla maybe it worked out. But the trick part of Loki could be that he got reborned in alternate universe.
Now the Váli part.
Well Váli was born to avenge Baldr's death. And he got mature in one day! Ok, what's the reference here? - Orion joined the tournament in no time, just few weeks and he's a great warrior. No story about his previous life, no achievements (that we know so far). Well it took him more than one day to join, but still the amount of story we know about him is literally like one day from his life and even less.
This one thing is really small, but Baldr's name means mainly "shining day". Well Orion gets his flashy shiny golden armor so he shine's all the time in it. (xd)
I think that that's it, tho maybe there might be something else wich is significant from mythology and is worth mentioning cause I could forget already about something after discovering those new things ;D
Also one thing - the Váli connection can actually be ment for Artemis, because she got born or her powers were born the day that Orion arrived -> It's kind of reverse, Váli was born when Baldr died. Also his destiny was avenging, Artemis' is bringing doom.
DeleteWow! I just read all these theories, and I am blown away by them! Honestly, anything's possible. I didn't think to look more closely at Norse mythology for clues about Orion! Hmm...you've given me more things to think about...
DeleteI need to mention one thought about Orion's origins/how he came to Valhalla - instead of alternate universes etc maybe time-travel instead? We know it is possible in Brawlhalla universe, Vector and Mirage did time travel and Scarlet invented it.
DeleteI think that since Baldur/Orion got reborn after Ragnarok (Norse mythology says that he will be reborned together with his blind brother who got tricked into killing him by Loki, also some other gods do survive the event) then he could want to prevent all of this and he used time travel, well since we don't know how it does work he could use it to travel way much before it happaned, maybe by mistake, there he could met Mirage, in either past or her default time. (But he could met her already after he got into Asgard - it's stated that he is leaving from time to time.)
[+now that I mention it then I think there's kind of a mistake, since it's stated that he's the only hero to leave Asgard, but at the same time Azoth is being summoned sometimes and Brynn is doing her job as Valkyrie? The only way those both are true is maybe if that statement is somehow related to certain time, when Brynn is not working anymore and Azoth is not able to being summoned anymore - Lara Croft after all got one of his soul stones!]
Also gods seem to live endlessly or really long, he could live a many years in Midgard, maybe even met Lucien (and maybe even sent him to Valhalla xd).
And since he was in Midgard he could try to find the way to enter Asgard from there actually, because who knows, maybe it's not so simple even for a god?
Also the name that Orion was known for Mirage - I think that he could may not tell her real name (Baldur) and instead use the fake one (Volst). I mean it would be unwise to tell true name to not-asgardian, but at the same time Mirage is good, at least from what we know then maybe he could trust her. But wait.. at the same time she says that "he chose afterlife" - she would not say that knowing that he's actually a god, he's at home in Asgard after all.
OK now completely other thing - I read some info about Baldur's son Forseti (god of justice & law). The thing is that his son lived in a Glitnir, name of this hall means "shining", it refers to hall's silver ceiling and golden pillars. While Baldur had his own hall, too, still he resided in his son's hall much.
Now I do mention it because it might be the origin of Orion's armor color design (mostly the original one's, cause new one has cyan also, wich at the same time could be maybe a reference to the sky, golden color to sun and silver to the clouds?).
Next thing is that I had mentioned something about Baldur's name wrong in the previous comment. "Shining day" is not it's main meaning, but it is speculated that it could have been understood like that by people back in the time when norse gods were worshipped. The actual main meanings of Baldr/Balder/Baldur's name are: brave, defiant, lord, prince. Other are: hero, great man, hard, stubborn, bold, frank, confident, courageous.
Also I didn't mention it, but Baldur is a god of goodness, beauty, wisdom. (Source - Polish wikipedia xd, on English there was nothing about it I think. But also on Polish site they used "symbol" instead of "god", saying just in case for awareness.)
And since I just mentioned meanings of his name then I'd like to share what do I think about each version of it and how I'd feel if one of them would be choosen by BMG:
DeleteBalder - Just no. No, no, NO! Since English is widely known language and used a lot then choosing "more than bald" as name would be really silly in not exactly fun way. In the past it might be cool tho.
Baldr - Originally I liked this one most. It has 5 letters same as Orion and Volst. But when you try to say it it's not so great actually. As long as you'd say it the way it's written of course, if we would agree that you pronounce it Baldar/Baldor/Baldur/Baldyr/Baldir then it might be written like that.
Baldur - At first didn't like it because it would remind about other game series of course. But since reasons wich I mentioned above, then now I like this one most.
Ok last thing that I have to say about mythology and lore of game a bit - it is kind of funny that as for now I don't know actually nothing about Baldur's life before he got nightmares of his death. (after posting this I'll probably search for something about it finally) I mean his mother said to Loki when he was offensing gods, something around "if here was a man like my son Baldur, you wouldn't be able to get away with your words" (Thor wasn't in Valhalla at that moment). So it kind of gives us a image of a quite powerful warrior and well it does suit how Orion is in the game.
Hope you will enjoy/enjoyed reading all of this above. It was so much I needed to separate the text into 2 comments ;d
tl;dr - lore theory spam
On english mythology wiki I found that he is the god of light, joy, purity, and the summer sun.
DeleteAlso Baldr is a Thor's younger brother (didn't mention before who is older)
Actually I'll just drop this link here: https://mythology.wikia.org/wiki/Baldr
Well also I didn't share why I think that Orion's identity is kept hiden - so I guess this is so that Loki won't find out that he's back alive, because after all he knows how to kill him.
DeleteAlso Orion's visors on helmet might be a little nod to Dead Space:
ReplyDeletehttps://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/deadspace/images/d/d4/DeadSpace_2_-_Dementia.jpg
Of course they do not look exactly the same, normally Clarke from DS have visors made of various number of "stripes" depending on the upgrade level, still from that perspective they look a lot similar, also this "armor" is covering whole body, too.
(needed to delete previous comment cause I made big mistake posting it too quickly xd)
Good catch with the stripes! Not sure how likely it is that they're related, but cool nonetheless!
Delete''Artemis falls in love with Orion, but her brother, Apollo, disapproves. While Orion is swimming in the ocean, Apollo challenged Artemis on her archery skill. Apollo tells Artemis to aim for a small dark speck on the ocean's surface (Orion's head above water, far from shore), and of course Artemis hits the target. She is overcome with grief when Orion's body is washed ashore. ''
ReplyDeleteSavage, I will remember this if one day I have a daughter.
XD
Delete"Orion - A revered warrior and champion, the mysterious armored knight uses Rocket Lance and Spear to battle his foes in the halls of Valhalla!"
ReplyDeleteThis is the weekly rotation info for him on Brawlhalla's official site. Champion? I guess it means champion of the gods maybe
Also since it's stated in lore that Orion arrived after Cassidy then it means that actually most of the legends were in Valhalla before him.
DeleteI mentioned in comment before statement is his lore saying "He is the only hero seen to leave Asgard from time to time." - I said that it could be referenced to a more specific time (Azoth can't be ressurected cause of Lara Croft, Brynn might not work as Valkyrie anymore), so adding the thing that he'd be the one of later joining legends then this sentence could be actually true.
Why do you say that Lara Croft has one of Orion's soul stones? She isn't a legend in Brawlhalla just a skin and i cant seem to find anything to support that :/
Delete1st - it's a theory
Delete2nd - Azoth's soul stone. not Orion's
3rd - because this is what's shown in Lara Croft's trailer, we don't know for sure if crossovers definitely can't or can be canon and since she's character from Ubisoft then if any of them would be such then she for sure would be the 1st one to pick
both my mains (artemis and nix) hate orion. GOOD.
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DeleteShouldnt lucian be included in orion's connections? Cause the whole "the sight of orion brings him to an incoherent rage"
ReplyDeleteSince it's mentioned in Orion's lore then no, this connection is mentioned on Lucien's page in this case
Delete“however, is Diffensive's theory that Orion is a make Valkyrie from an alternative universe.”
ReplyDeleteSorry to bother you but I think make is a typo.
Fixed. Thanks!
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